Chris P. Dialynas

Managing Director, PIMCO

Mr. Dialynas is a Managing Director, portfolio manager, a senior member of PIMCO’s investment strategy group, and a member of PIMCO’s investment committee. He joined PIMCO in 1980. Mr. Dialynas has written extensively and lectured on the topic of fixed income investing. He served on the Editorial Board of The Journal of Portfolio Management and was a member of Fixed Income Curriculum Committee of the Association for Investment Management and Research. He has thirty years of investment experience and holds a bachelor’s degree in economics from Pomona College, and holds an MBA in finance from The University of Chicago Graduate School of Business.

PIMCO’s Unconstrained Bond Fund is an absolute return-oriented, investment grade fixed income-based approach that embodies PIMCO’s proven investment process. In the following interview, Portfolio Manager Chris Dialynas answers questions about the fund.

Q: What is the PIMCO Unconstrained Bond Fund?

Dialynas: The PIMCO Unconstrained Bond Fund puts PIMCO’s investment process and active management skills to work in an approach that is not tethered to benchmark-specific guidelines or related tracking error limitations. Our goal for the fund is to deliver attractive positive return and preserve capital over a full market cycle.

The unconstrained nature of our approach with this fund allows us to adjust duration, allocate across sectors, express our global economic views and otherwise tap into our toolkit to a greater degree than benchmark-constrained strategies. As a result, we have the ability to assume more risk in areas where we have a strong positive conviction and to reduce or eliminate exposures where we see less value or heightened downside risk. Of course, the Unconstrained Bond Fund is guided by PIMCO’s long-term secular and short-term cyclical economic outlooks, our disciplined, integrated investment process and the full benefit of our broad and deep global bond market expertise.

Q: For investors, what is the appeal of the Unconstrained Bond Fund?

Dialynas: The fund is primarily for clients who are willing to grant very broad investment discretion to managers with demonstrated skill, in the interest of seeking higher alpha or risk-adjusted return potential over the long-term.

The fund may appeal to investors who do not necessarily want their investment performance to closely track a specified bond index and those who are willing to give up relatively strict investment limitations in exchange for potentially higher returns and proactive downside risk mitigation. The Unconstrained Bond Fund also provides a potential solution for investors who appreciate the value and diversification offered by the global fixed income markets over the long-term but prefer an approach that actively selects and adjusts the magnitude of risk exposures based on the opportunity set and market outlook with an absolute return goal, as opposed to a bond index-related performance objective.

We believe that PIMCO’s almost four decades of experience, global fixed income expertise, long-term focus and stringent risk management culture provides us with the requisite combination of qualifications to successfully manage this type of fund.

Q: What is the investment benchmark for this fund?

Dialynas: By design, the fund is not managed relative to a specified market index benchmark – and this is an important difference between the Unconstrained Bond Fund and traditional active fixed income mandates. The sector weights, duration and other risk exposures are likely to vary to a (much) greater degree over time when compared to traditional fixed income portfolios that are generally expected to exhibit relatively moderate and stable tracking error versus a specified market index benchmark.

However, there is a U.S. LIBOR reference point used, which is common for absolute return oriented strategies. The use of LIBOR as a reference point dovetails with the idea that, even though the goal is to generate a positive return that is not tied to a market index, a money market rate is an appropriate minimum hurdle across most periods of reasonable length, as a proxy for the theoretical risk-free investment option.

Importantly, however, the LIBOR benchmark is not intended to be indicative of the risk or other characteristics of the fund. As such, the Lehman Aggregate Bond Index (LBAG) is specified as a secondary benchmark. While the Unconstrained Bond Fund is not designed to track the LBAG, the LBAG may be a reasonable proxy for the downside risk exposure of the Unconstrained Bond Fund and therefore may serve as a useful reference point in this regard.

Q: What types of investment strategies are employed in the Unconstrained Bond Fund?

Dialynas: The strategies employed are absolute return oriented and fixed income-based, without any material constraints specific to the global opportunity set. Portfolio construction is guided by our goal of providing investors with the traditional benefits that investors associate with the bond market – including capital preservation, liquidity and diversification – plus the potential for more attractive risk-adjusted returns over the long-term and active downside risk mitigation.

As the portfolio will be constructed without reference to a specified bond market index, the exposures and strategies employed are likely to vary to a considerable degree, with the specific exposures and degree of variance dependent on our views of relative value and risk across the fixed income markets globally. The additional discretion may be particularly valuable during rising rate environments as we can eliminate our interest rate exposure, or opportunistically benefit from the bond-unfriendly aspects of a rising interest rate environment, for example. Likewise, the strategy allows portfolios to opportunistically assume much greater exposure to the so-called tactical fixed income sectors or strategies than would be reasonably possible in a fund that is constrained by a U.S. core bond market index.

We do expect that there will be periods of time where the Unconstrained Bond Fund underperforms the bond market, either due to a reduced risk posture or otherwise due to our structuring the portfolio in a way that we believe to be most beneficial for investors over the long term. For the same reason, we anticipate that there will be time periods where the Unconstrained Bond Fund exhibits either a materially higher or materially lower volatility than a core bond index reference point. As such, it is important for investors to evaluate the strategy over a three-to-five year time horizon and also to keep in mind the dual objective of providing attractive long-term return and downside risk mitigation.

Q: What are some of the investment restrictions for the fund and what is the reason for the restrictions, if the fund is intended to be “unconstrained?”

Dialynas: Recommended guidelines include a portfolio duration range between -3 and +8 years, with maximum high yield bond and emerging market bond holdings of 40% and 50%, respectively. High-yield bonds and emerging markets securities can be volatile, with high-yield bonds also involving higher credit risk, and emerging markets securities involving heightened political and currency risks.

The investment guidelines for the Unconstrained Bond Fund exist to provide a reasonable basis for investors for purposes of constructing their broader investment portfolios and asset allocations. Specifically, the limits ensure that the average quality of the portfolio is investment grade and also that the portfolio is more bond-like than equity-like in terms of the downside risk exposure, even in circumstances where the market may move against our active risk positions. This does not mean that Unconstrained Bond Fund portfolios will necessarily have an identical volatility to a reference bond market index in any given period (the volatility may be higher or lower). However, we do have the ability, due to the unconstrained nature of the fund, and also the intent to provide even greater downside risk mitigation (capital preservation) than a bond market index or traditional core bond mandate over the long term.

The limits also provide reasonable assurance that the fund will not be likely to exhibit a meaningfully positive correlation with the equity market. This is an important consideration for most investors as “traditional portfolios” – i.e., portfolios with 55-70% of the investment capital allocated to equities and 30-45% of the capital allocated to bonds – have historically exhibited an almost perfect correlation with the equity market. As such, strategies that provide material equity market risk diversification are particularly valuable.

Importantly, it is not our intent for the guidelines to signal the likely risk exposures over time. For example, while the recommended guidelines allow for up to 40% below investment grade exposure, it would not be correct to assume that the average high yield exposure will be the mid-point of the allowable range (20%). Rather, the risk exposures will depend entirely on PIMCO’s active views with the sole exception of the risk exposure maximums noted, for the reason detailed above.

Q: How does the Unconstrained Bond Fund fit into an asset allocation? Is it most closely related to alternative investments or to traditional core bond mandates?

Dialynas: The Unconstrained Bond Fund is, by design, an absolute return strategy and may be considered an alternative investment approach in the sense that the active management discretion and alpha potential is materially greater than that associated with traditional active fixed income management strategies. The fund is also likely to provide noteworthy diversification at the portfolio level as it should not exhibit a materially positive correlation with the equity market, which is a key benefit that many associate with alternatives. However, from a downside risk perspective, the Unconstrained Bond Fund may be most closely related to a core fixed income allocation.

No matter how the Fund is characterized, it is critical that investors understand that it is a long-term approach by design which seeks long-term return consistent with preservation of capital. Over shorter time periods these objectives may seem to be in conflict; however, we believe that they should be quite complementary and beneficial for investors over the longer term.

Q: Thank you, Chris.